It propels the remainder of the season. It appears like a ahead thrust on a rocket.
That was my hope.
I lately interviewed Craig Wedren and Anna Waronker, the composers of “Yellowjackets,” each of whom expressed immense gratitude to you for making theme songs hip once more.
Oh wow. [laughs] Wonderful. That is very variety.
They, like I believe most individuals who watch the present, by no means skip the opening credit. Everybody desires to get into “Succession” mode with that hovering orchestra. Did theme songs attraction to you from an early age?
Yeah, I’ve beloved theme songs since I used to be very, very younger. I believe there’s one thing about TV theme songs, but additionally opening credit score sequences—and I take into consideration that in motion pictures as properly—I am a giant fan of formal cinematic constructions. I like opening title sequences. I additionally love finish credit score sequences. Not you can’t do with out them too. Each undertaking has its personal grammar, so some tasks should not have a gap title sequence, as a result of there’s one thing highly effective a couple of chilly open. However I really feel, particularly with one thing like “Succession,” maybe, there’s nearly this concept of an overture to an opera, for example, or a musical, the place the music goes to convey you into this world and set the stage, no pun supposed. It is form of saying “right here we go.” I believe there is a worth to that. Equally, finish credit score sequences: I like the sensation after a film, the place you are sitting, for instance, you are sitting in darkness. You have simply skilled one thing. The music is there to form of permit you a second of contemplation, to ponder what you will have simply felt. I like that. I believe that is why we go to motion pictures, that is why we need to have an opportunity to discover our personal feelings. I believe these formal constructions generally give us a really particular means of experiencing these issues.
I consider going to the films as going to church, you go there to be remodeled, to have an expertise that is not attainable elsewhere.
I need to return to “Austerlitz,” in Season One, to the scene proper after the Roys’ household remedy session. They’re in a kitchen, combating, and Logan comes at Kendall and needs to be restrained. You hardly ever use guitar on the present however you used guitar there. Might you inform me why you made that call in that scene?
Yeah, yeah, completely. That was one thing that, to me, speaks to the fantastic collaboration that I’ve with Jesse Armstrong and with Adam McKay, the place we’re at all times speaking about completely different concepts. There was one thing there, I keep in mind, that simply got here from a dialog I used to be having with them. [The Roys] are within the Southwest. There’s this form of completely different atmosphere, they’re like fish out of water kinda. They’re identical to, the place are they? What is going on to them? What is that this? I believe there’s one thing about, particularly, these journeys that Kendall goes on within the present, that I, in hindsight, have form of a behavior of specializing in these journeys. In Season Two, for instance, I wrote this piece known as “Rondo in F minor” that, to me, is in regards to the melancholic journey that he goes on. The piece we’re speaking about has a guitar and a banjo, and it was making an attempt to offer this particular sound to that second for Kendall. It was a really acutely aware thought of, “What would that sound like?” A whole lot of what I do for “Succession,” as with lots of my tasks, are experiments. I by no means assume that one thing goes to work. My intuition is at all times to attempt it out. And worst case state of affairs, Jesse will say, “This doesn’t work.” [laughs] I am at all times like, “Okay.” However it felt actually proper. I keep in mind recording these items and feeling like I discovered there was one thing very stunning in regards to the sound of the banjo and the guitar doing that theme for Kendall there. There have been moments, because the present went on, that I used to be like, “Oh, might I ever use that once more?” And it hadn’t felt proper. Till, truly—I am simply attempting to suppose if we have already seen it, I do not need to give something away. However there was a second in Season 4 the place I truly introduced again that guitar very subtly in an episode.